Comments on: White Out – A Look at Wizard’s New Favorite Color http://www.gatheringmagic.com/2009/08/white-out-a-look-at-wizards-new-favorite-color/ MTG Blog, Forum, Spoilers, Deck Ideas, MTGO, Cards,Tactics,Zendikar, M10, Worldwake, Rise of the Eldrazi, Strategy and Analysis Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:17:49 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Toric http://www.gatheringmagic.com/2009/08/white-out-a-look-at-wizards-new-favorite-color/comment-page-1/#comment-11201 Toric Wed, 13 Jan 2010 03:31:52 +0000 http://www.gatheringmagic.com/?p=4124#comment-11201 I'm going to have to disagree with this article. While I am posting with the advantage of Zendikar already out and making it's impact on the scene, I think the pre-zendikar info this article is based upon is flawed. Faeries was the cornerstone deck. You played it or you played to beat it. BW tokens certainly was one of the few decks able to compete with it, but certainly did not dominate. 5cc used baneslayer instead of broodmate in many builds. So a couple of top-tier decks used white (but were not mono) but the number-one deck used no white at all. Hmm. With Alara Reborn came the initial rise of Jund, giving it terminate, bloodbraid elf, bituminous blast, maelstrom pulse, and putrid leech; then m10 giving it lightning bolt and better lands. No white there. White doesn't seem to be able to say "I can do anything they can do better" without them laughing in white's face. White has good spot removal (swords to plowshares-path to exile) (disenchant-o ring), board creature sweep effect (wog-doj) good cheap wheenies (Figure, Savanah lions, white knight/other knights) and a big flier with other abilities (akroma/baneslayer). better one-drops: sol ring, ancestral recall, dark ritual, brainstorm, sensei's divining top, lightning bolt, goblin welder, disciple of the vault... I'm sure others can add more and/or argue. Figure is hardly "the best one drop ever." Best token generator? Too narrow to bother arguing. Garruk seems pretty good at making 3/3's I hear though. Sprouting Trinax does a great job for similar cost and similar quantity of tokens made, but also has many more uses. White is hardly overpowered at the moment. Red/Black seems to have -way- more power. Blightning is currently the most powerful card in type II, and/or Bloodbraid Elf. There is a reason why Jund is the most popular deck... it runs the most powerful cards, in the most powerful colors. Seems to me that white is 3rd place at best, possibly 4th place in overall power (poor blue in 5th...) Seems to me the writer of the article picked out some good white cards, then turned a blind eye to the torrent of other stuff around. Elspeth and Baneslayer are expensive because they are popular -and- mythic rares. Not because they're worth (strictly from power level considerations) that much more than the competition. The comparison of baneslayer to 'goyf is just laughable though. Good try, bad result. Written well, but the article simply doesn't hit the mark. I’m going to have to disagree with this article. While I am posting with the advantage of Zendikar already out and making it’s impact on the scene, I think the pre-zendikar info this article is based upon is flawed.

Faeries was the cornerstone deck. You played it or you played to beat it. BW tokens certainly was one of the few decks able to compete with it, but certainly did not dominate. 5cc used baneslayer instead of broodmate in many builds.

So a couple of top-tier decks used white (but were not mono) but the number-one deck used no white at all. Hmm.

With Alara Reborn came the initial rise of Jund, giving it terminate, bloodbraid elf, bituminous blast, maelstrom pulse, and putrid leech; then m10 giving it lightning bolt and better lands.

No white there.

White doesn’t seem to be able to say “I can do anything they can do better” without them laughing in white’s face. White has good spot removal (swords to plowshares-path to exile) (disenchant-o ring), board creature sweep effect (wog-doj) good cheap wheenies (Figure, Savanah lions, white knight/other knights) and a big flier with other abilities (akroma/baneslayer).

better one-drops: sol ring, ancestral recall, dark ritual, brainstorm, sensei’s divining top, lightning bolt, goblin welder, disciple of the vault… I’m sure others can add more and/or argue. Figure is hardly “the best one drop ever.” Best token generator? Too narrow to bother arguing. Garruk seems pretty good at making 3/3’s I hear though. Sprouting Trinax does a great job for similar cost and similar quantity of tokens made, but also has many more uses.

White is hardly overpowered at the moment. Red/Black seems to have -way- more power. Blightning is currently the most powerful card in type II, and/or Bloodbraid Elf. There is a reason why Jund is the most popular deck… it runs the most powerful cards, in the most powerful colors. Seems to me that white is 3rd place at best, possibly 4th place in overall power (poor blue in 5th…)

Seems to me the writer of the article picked out some good white cards, then turned a blind eye to the torrent of other stuff around. Elspeth and Baneslayer are expensive because they are popular -and- mythic rares. Not because they’re worth (strictly from power level considerations) that much more than the competition.

The comparison of baneslayer to ‘goyf is just laughable though.

Good try, bad result. Written well, but the article simply doesn’t hit the mark.

]]> By: saintelsewhere http://www.gatheringmagic.com/2009/08/white-out-a-look-at-wizards-new-favorite-color/comment-page-1/#comment-9597 saintelsewhere Sun, 27 Dec 2009 07:45:40 +0000 http://www.gatheringmagic.com/?p=4124#comment-9597 Yeah, white is clearly the best. Just look at all those white cards in Jund. Yeah, white is clearly the best. Just look at all those white cards in Jund.

]]> By: Johnny’s Landfall Musings | Gathering Magic - A Magic the Gathering Forum and Blog for Spoilers, MTG Combos, Deck Ideas, Magic 2010, M10, Zendikar, Worldwake, Eldrazi and MTGO http://www.gatheringmagic.com/2009/08/white-out-a-look-at-wizards-new-favorite-color/comment-page-1/#comment-6708 Johnny’s Landfall Musings | Gathering Magic - A Magic the Gathering Forum and Blog for Spoilers, MTG Combos, Deck Ideas, Magic 2010, M10, Zendikar, Worldwake, Eldrazi and MTGO Mon, 05 Oct 2009 14:04:31 +0000 http://www.gatheringmagic.com/?p=4124#comment-6708 [...] don’t get these Gathering Magic guys. First I hear white is far too powerful, then green is apparently too cool for school. Seemingly endless rantings of tiny and ultimately [...]

[...] don’t get these Gathering Magic guys. First I hear white is far too powerful, then green is apparently too cool for school. Seemingly endless rantings of tiny and ultimately [...]

]]> By: chambermaggit http://www.gatheringmagic.com/2009/08/white-out-a-look-at-wizards-new-favorite-color/comment-page-1/#comment-4643 chambermaggit Wed, 26 Aug 2009 17:50:54 +0000 http://www.gatheringmagic.com/?p=4124#comment-4643 I don't hate white, it is the color I am least likely to play right after green, however you are 111% correct. Path to exile is just enough...... If baneslayer wasnt enough having all her crazy abilities she can also easily deal with the other colors best creatures just by being a 5/5 let a lone having protection from it (broodmate) I am terribly sick of playing against kithkin and or soldier decks and am thrilled with spectral and most of the kithkin going away with zendikar coming in but i doubt it will be enough. I don’t hate white, it is the color I am least likely to play right after green, however you are 111% correct.
Path to exile is just enough……
If baneslayer wasnt enough having all her crazy abilities she can also easily deal with the other colors best creatures just by being a 5/5 let a lone having protection from it (broodmate)
I am terribly sick of playing against kithkin and or soldier decks and am thrilled with spectral and most of the kithkin going away with zendikar coming in but i doubt it will be enough.

]]> By: tylor http://www.gatheringmagic.com/2009/08/white-out-a-look-at-wizards-new-favorite-color/comment-page-1/#comment-4532 tylor Sun, 23 Aug 2009 16:16:17 +0000 http://www.gatheringmagic.com/?p=4124#comment-4532 re-making wog in zendikar re-making wog in zendikar

]]> By: Dan the Man http://www.gatheringmagic.com/2009/08/white-out-a-look-at-wizards-new-favorite-color/comment-page-1/#comment-4523 Dan the Man Sun, 23 Aug 2009 05:27:19 +0000 http://www.gatheringmagic.com/?p=4124#comment-4523 I am going to disagree, I love playing multi-colors over mono colors. For instance my red and black Goblin Deck is rockin. If it was either red or black only, it wouldn't be as versatile to changes (staying standard) as it is at the moment. Each new color adds a new distiction and flavor that you just can't get from mono. The trick here is utilizing the cards available to produce the mana you need in the shortest amount of time. I am going to disagree, I love playing multi-colors over mono colors. For instance my red and black Goblin Deck is rockin. If it was either red or black only, it wouldn’t be as versatile to changes (staying standard) as it is at the moment. Each new color adds a new distiction and flavor that you just can’t get from mono. The trick here is utilizing the cards available to produce the mana you need in the shortest amount of time.

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